thanks jeffrey,the ones around here seem to be more solitary and very territorial.seem to like really rocky areas.they hit hard and i am always amazed when i catch one as they fight hard and i always think it is a much larger fish.i like the way they tremble in your hand when you are unhooking them.i catch them on large top water plugs like zara spooks and the tiniest flies.never catch more than 1 or 2 at a time.we have rock bas up here and i think they inbreed some with wramouths as i have caught some strange looking fish at times.
The Warmouth are a species that like a little warmer conditions but they are starting to move a little bit down in South Carolina where most of the water temperatures in the Low Country exceed 70 degrees......I caught these fish in tight to wood in rather shallow water on Live crickets.....Always a good time to add a few Goggle-eye Perch to your creel....
This beauty attacked a soft plastic bubble-gum colored grub with a live cricket added.....This guy really popped when he got out of the water....The water temperatures are getting in a range that big Warmouth love....Can't wait to find a cluster......
Had several nice Warmouth in my Perquimans River creel today....They hit the honey hole pink/white curly tail grub tipped with live crickets...Water was down several feet from the winds so these fish had pulled back off shore some....Water temps have dropped almost ten degrees from last weekend down to 68. As the water continues to warm we'll start catching more chunky Warmouth....Good time!
Starting to pick up some really nice Warmouth shallow in Carolina....These guys are hitting pink jigs and pink hair jigs as well....These are a few that I have caught on a few recent trips...The jigs I used are pictured as well.....
We have been blessed this month with some fine Warmouth while pursuing gills......Several over a pound highlight a great fishery in Northeast North Carolina.......
Got out on the Pasquotank today after being down in the Low Country for almost a month.....Some fine chunky Warmouth got in to the action today.....Always like to pick up a few big mouth sunfish along the way.......
The deep and dark swamp waters hold some nice warmouth also....I caught 10 today on Silent Stingers tipped with Live Crickets.....the largest was 14.2 ounces......Good times and a great species....
Likewise....I have a few spots that hold quality fish and others that hold good numbers....I love to catch Warmouth and usually can count on a few in each mess. They are particularly fun to catch on a popping bug......let us know when you find them Jason!
I just found this sight while searching for info on warmouth. There is a subdivision that was built across from me when the housing market crashed, no houses built but five ponds built. I have found one that is full of warmouth but I'm having a hard time catching them consistently. On average most are around 8 inches and FAT. There are no stumps or trees around just grass bottom. I've caught them on crank baits and beetle spins.20140317_184107.jpg
How about that - bad economic decisions lead to better fishing!
Mix in thin light floats with your artificials. Use them to drift worms, crickets or small grass shrimp about a foot above the weeds.
Also keep in mind that this time of year, the weather plays a big role in how fish respond. It is variable, the barometer is not often stable and the water temps fluctuate. This makes consistency hard to achieve, particularly from a shore bound position.
Ps balance your slender light floats so 1-2" of their tips remain above the surface. Warmouth are fairly aggressive feeders, but a float with little resistance always helps.
Then, start removing the small to mid sized fish. This selective culling will reduce competition for the available food and leave room for the remaining fish to reach maximum size.
(Consider feeding a few pounds of cheap dry dog food, too. Since you don't own the property, you don't want to go too far down this path. But feeding helps overall.)
I'm gonna go to the feed store and see what they have for fish food. Today we figured out there's a new nest of moccasins around this particular pond. We saw 3 today within 20 minutes less than a foot long, so I'm gonna have to deal with that problem. Also catching really large golden shiners on bread balls.
Remember, too, that feeding the POND will improve the overall health of the BOW. You may not need to feed the fish, directly, if the lower lifer forms are dining on your offerings.
To a certain extent this is true. However, if the fish are not utilizing the feed, then you need to ask yourself "what is?" Fish feed is a wonderful fertilizer......and uneaten feed sinking to the bottom will oftentimes cause an explosion in aquatic vegetation growth. This may lead to reduced predation, which can lead to increased recruitment, which can lead to inadequate forage, which can lead to stunting.....etc. etc.
When I feed, my goal first and foremost is to get the feed into the fish. it's optimal forage theory at its finest: the least amount of energy expended for the greatest nutrients consumed.
I'm no pond boss, but I'm on one almost every day. I'm thinking bass probably won't take to the feed, but the shiners will. These being wild fish, the shiners are probably the first to go for them. They are foragers. I've seen them swarm over chum I make from dog food.
My guess is the warmouth will avoid them, initially. The commotion of he shiners on the feed may tempt them, however.
This is why I suggested earlier to not go too far down the path of feeding.
There are just too many variables out of your control, in a BOW you don't own. Without control, you can't be sure of anything.
This is why I think feeding the pond LIGHTLY will give you the best return. Sure, some fish may get a free ride. But so will the lower life forms upon which them warmouth feed. In the end, you can only do so much in what is essentially a free for all.
Mark, feed is available in either floating or sinking varieties. With a sinking feed, you probably won't be able to tell what, if anything, is eating it. With a floating feed however, you can usually see or at least catch a glimpse of what is eating it. If you see Warmouth's taking it, then there you go.
Be aware however, that it usually takes time to condition the fish to take pellets. And with Warmouth, I don't know if they ever will, at least with any regularity and in any numbers.
"Red shiners can live up to three years. They are omnivorous; they eat both aquatic and terrestrial invertebrates, as well as algae.[3] Red shiners have also been known to eat the eggs and larvae of native fish found in locations where they have been introduced.[4]"
They will compete with. and even prey upon, the bluegill.
Surely, in excess, they can diminish the number of bluegill. Better get some bass in that BOW.
Nobody knows. They were built as retention ponds for a housing development but housing market crashed and no houses were ever built. Five ponds total the largest maybe half acre.
Well they're predictable, at least.
You're probably looking at ponds without bluegill. Sounds weird to us, but Every pond is different and small unmanaged ones are known for being species specific. As common as they are, there is no rule that bluegill MUST be in every pond. The warmouth must be filling their niche.
My opinion is you should start calling them "war gills" and roll with it.
I'm no expert - I'd ask Tony Livingston here at BBG.
From what he's taught me, I'd say the ponds are in some sort of equilibrium. Doing anything new will upset this structure. Since they are fairly small, that can be disastrous.
My sense is don't add more fish; feed and cull for selection the ones that are there now.
jim cosgrove
thanks jeffrey,the ones around here seem to be more solitary and very territorial.seem to like really rocky areas.they hit hard and i am always amazed when i catch one as they fight hard and i always think it is a much larger fish.i like the way they tremble in your hand when you are unhooking them.i catch them on large top water plugs like zara spooks and the tiniest flies.never catch more than 1 or 2 at a time.we have rock bas up here and i think they inbreed some with wramouths as i have caught some strange looking fish at times.
Apr 5, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
The Warmouth are a species that like a little warmer conditions but they are starting to move a little bit down in South Carolina where most of the water temperatures in the Low Country exceed 70 degrees......I caught these fish in tight to wood in rather shallow water on Live crickets.....Always a good time to add a few Goggle-eye Perch to your creel....
Apr 22, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
This beauty attacked a soft plastic bubble-gum colored grub with a live cricket added.....This guy really popped when he got out of the water....The water temperatures are getting in a range that big Warmouth love....Can't wait to find a cluster......
May 18, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Had several nice Warmouth in my Perquimans River creel today....They hit the honey hole pink/white curly tail grub tipped with live crickets...Water was down several feet from the winds so these fish had pulled back off shore some....Water temps have dropped almost ten degrees from last weekend down to 68. As the water continues to warm we'll start catching more chunky Warmouth....Good time!
May 20, 2012
Ronnie M.
I love to catch warmouth!! They are beginning to show up in a lake I fish. Caught a few Wed morning with a bead nymph but only small ones.
May 25, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Starting to pick up some really nice Warmouth shallow in Carolina....These guys are hitting pink jigs and pink hair jigs as well....These are a few that I have caught on a few recent trips...The jigs I used are pictured as well.....
Jun 10, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Caught some awesome Warmouth today on the Pasquotank River.....my dad and I each caught a goggle-eye in the 1 pound class....really fun times!
Jun 16, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
This little Warmouth hit almost as hard as some of the nicer ones last week.....What a predator!
Jun 21, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
We have been blessed this month with some fine Warmouth while pursuing gills......Several over a pound highlight a great fishery in Northeast North Carolina.......
Jun 21, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
A nice Warmouth from the beaver Creek on a Grass Shrimp by Gronaw.....
Jul 8, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Some warmouth from the family vacation in June..
Jul 8, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
I love to see these young predators already getting in the mix........
Jul 13, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Got out on the Pasquotank today after being down in the Low Country for almost a month.....Some fine chunky Warmouth got in to the action today.....Always like to pick up a few big mouth sunfish along the way.......
Aug 17, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Late Summer Warmouth on the Little River on Sunday...8/19/2012
Aug 22, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Bigbluegill.com member Jen from Oklahoma caught these great Warmouth fly fishing....Way to go Jen and thanks for sharing....
Sep 13, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
The deep and dark swamp waters hold some nice warmouth also....I caught 10 today on Silent Stingers tipped with Live Crickets.....the largest was 14.2 ounces......Good times and a great species....


Oct 13, 2012
Jeffrey D. Abney
Welcome Jason.....we catch some nice Warmouth in North Carolina.....Look forward to your inputs for "Wild About Warmouth"....
Feb 4, 2013
Jason Preslar
Feb 5, 2013
Jeffrey D. Abney
Likewise....I have a few spots that hold quality fish and others that hold good numbers....I love to catch Warmouth and usually can count on a few in each mess. They are particularly fun to catch on a popping bug......let us know when you find them Jason!
Feb 5, 2013
Jason S
Regarding Jen below, can you post a picture of the flies you used?
Thank you.
Feb 16, 2013
Jeffrey D. Abney
Here's a fact sheet for Warmouth fishing in North Carolina.....Warmouth_profile.pdf
Mar 6, 2013
Jeffrey D. Abney
Welcome to the group James.....a great species......
Jul 31, 2013
James Micheal Landrum
Thanks Jeffrey ! Hope I can get in the river tomorrow to make a few cast around the Cypress Stumps and hang one of the big boys!!!
Jul 31, 2013
Mark Williams
I just found this sight while searching for info on warmouth. There is a subdivision that was built across from me when the housing market crashed, no houses built but five ponds built. I have found one that is full of warmouth but I'm having a hard time catching them consistently. On average most are around 8 inches and FAT. There are no stumps or trees around just grass bottom. I've caught them on crank baits and beetle spins.20140317_184107.jpg
Mar 21, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
Mix in thin light floats with your artificials. Use them to drift worms, crickets or small grass shrimp about a foot above the weeds.
Also keep in mind that this time of year, the weather plays a big role in how fish respond. It is variable, the barometer is not often stable and the water temps fluctuate. This makes consistency hard to achieve, particularly from a shore bound position.
Mar 22, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
Then, start removing the small to mid sized fish. This selective culling will reduce competition for the available food and leave room for the remaining fish to reach maximum size.
(Consider feeding a few pounds of cheap dry dog food, too. Since you don't own the property, you don't want to go too far down this path. But feeding helps overall.)
Mar 22, 2014
Jeffrey D. Abney
Welcome Mark.....hopefully you can get some useful information from this group and share some with us perhaps.......
Mar 22, 2014
Mark Williams
I'm gonna go to the feed store and see what they have for fish food. Today we figured out there's a new nest of moccasins around this particular pond. We saw 3 today within 20 minutes less than a foot long, so I'm gonna have to deal with that problem. Also catching really large golden shiners on bread balls.
Mar 22, 2014
Tony Livingston
Mark, please post the results of your feeding efforts. I have no idea if Warmouth's will take pelleted feed or not, but I'm certainly curious.
Mar 22, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
Mar 22, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
Mar 22, 2014
Tony Livingston
To a certain extent this is true. However, if the fish are not utilizing the feed, then you need to ask yourself "what is?" Fish feed is a wonderful fertilizer......and uneaten feed sinking to the bottom will oftentimes cause an explosion in aquatic vegetation growth. This may lead to reduced predation, which can lead to increased recruitment, which can lead to inadequate forage, which can lead to stunting.....etc. etc.
When I feed, my goal first and foremost is to get the feed into the fish. it's optimal forage theory at its finest: the least amount of energy expended for the greatest nutrients consumed.
Mar 22, 2014
Mark Williams
So, based on what your saying, how do I know if the warmouth are eating the feed? Will the shiners or bass eat the feed?
Mar 22, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
My guess is the warmouth will avoid them, initially. The commotion of he shiners on the feed may tempt them, however.
Mar 22, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
There are just too many variables out of your control, in a BOW you don't own. Without control, you can't be sure of anything.
This is why I think feeding the pond LIGHTLY will give you the best return. Sure, some fish may get a free ride. But so will the lower life forms upon which them warmouth feed. In the end, you can only do so much in what is essentially a free for all.
Mar 22, 2014
Tony Livingston
Mark, feed is available in either floating or sinking varieties. With a sinking feed, you probably won't be able to tell what, if anything, is eating it. With a floating feed however, you can usually see or at least catch a glimpse of what is eating it. If you see Warmouth's taking it, then there you go.
Be aware however, that it usually takes time to condition the fish to take pellets. And with Warmouth, I don't know if they ever will, at least with any regularity and in any numbers.
Mar 22, 2014
Jeffrey D. Abney
Welcome to the group Eric........look forward to your contribution.....
Apr 14, 2014
Mark Williams
Do any of you know if the red tail shiners will effect bream population? These ponds I'm fishing are absolutely overrun with them.
May 23, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
They will compete with. and even prey upon, the bluegill.
Surely, in excess, they can diminish the number of bluegill. Better get some bass in that BOW.
May 23, 2014
Mark Williams
Catching these pretty regular, that tackle box is 19" long. These guys should eat a few shiners.
May 23, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
May 23, 2014
Mark Williams
Weird thing is I've never caught anything out of these ponds other than war mouth and bass.
May 23, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
Were the ponds stocked?
May 23, 2014
Mark Williams
Nobody knows. They were built as retention ponds for a housing development but housing market crashed and no houses were ever built. Five ponds total the largest maybe half acre.
May 23, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
May 23, 2014
Mark Williams
Yep. Every fish over the last year.
May 23, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
You're probably looking at ponds without bluegill. Sounds weird to us, but Every pond is different and small unmanaged ones are known for being species specific. As common as they are, there is no rule that bluegill MUST be in every pond. The warmouth must be filling their niche.
It's unusual, for sure.
May 23, 2014
Mark Williams
Do you think adding some BG would be successful? If I catch then locally and just add them in?
May 24, 2014
David, aka, "McScruff"
I'm no expert - I'd ask Tony Livingston here at BBG.
From what he's taught me, I'd say the ponds are in some sort of equilibrium. Doing anything new will upset this structure. Since they are fairly small, that can be disastrous.
My sense is don't add more fish; feed and cull for selection the ones that are there now.
May 24, 2014
Mark Williams
Thanks, warmouth and bass lookout!
May 24, 2014